Nov. 4, 2025

The Leisure Gap, Princess Treatment, and Other Hard Truths About "Soft Life"

The Leisure Gap, Princess Treatment, and Other Hard Truths About "Soft Life"

Addressing the ambition penalty.

There is perhaps nobody in the financial education space who knows her way around the National Bureau of Economic Research quite like Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez. If Chapter 2 of Rich Girl Nation were sentient, it would probably sound a lot like Stefanie. Today on the show, I’m picking her brain about the current state of what she calls “the ambition penalty.”

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